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428 Camshaft selection
« on: July 22, 2022, 07:33:47 PM »
  7/22/2020
   Within a month or so I will be building a 428 for my tribute car.  The question is, what cam to order?
 the criteria:
   428 CJ block.  Stock stroke Scat crank, H beam rods, Trick Flow aluminum heads, Harlan sharp roller rocker are shafts. Forged 10:1 pistons
   Single 4 bbl Fuel injection carb.  This does not have to be the fastest car in town. Smooth idle desired.  The car has power brakes so vacuum to run that.  Likely 3:50 or 3:77 rear gears with automatic trans.
  The easy thing would be to run the 67 GT 390 cam like Tasca Ford used back then, BUT, I'd like to use a roller cam.
  So, any advice will be welcome.  Thanks

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Re: 428 Camshaft selection
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2022, 08:18:58 AM »
Talk to your supplier / engine builder and go with their recommendation based on your specific needs / wants
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Re: 428 Camshaft selection
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2022, 08:22:24 AM »
Go to the FE forum and ask Brent Lykins Motorsports. The best.
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Re: 428 Camshaft selection
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2022, 03:09:47 PM »
Talk to your supplier / engine builder and go with their recommendation based on your specific needs / wants


+1 

I realize times are changing, and perhaps additional input into the decision making process even if it is from cybe-space isn't necessarily all bad, but some guys cam recommendation over an internet forum seems to boarder on presumptuous behavior by the one making recommendations, who although may be familiar with the type of engine at hand, but knows little of the truly intended whim of the user.   :-\

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Re: 428 Camshaft selection
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2022, 09:16:24 AM »
there was at one time a fe cam available from ford motorsports   there was only 1  in 90s .   I think specs were in  catalog / i ran this cam in about 4 different cars . it was good idle sounded good and ran well with power brake cars .
Some where some one is driving their collector car for the last time but they don't know it . Drive your car every time like it could be the last memory of it .

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Re: 428 Camshaft selection
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2022, 09:42:11 AM »
Talk to your supplier / engine builder and go with their recommendation based on your specific needs / wants


+1 

I realize times are changing, and perhaps additional input into the decision making process even if it is from cybe-space isn't necessarily all bad, but some guys cam recommendation over an internet forum seems to boarder on presumptuous behavior by the one making recommendations, who although may be familiar with the type of engine at hand, but knows little of the truly intended whim of the user.   :-\

Scott.

I have found that you can't recommend a cam. There is different interpretation of what is meant by various criteria such as "good idle".

If those terms could be standardized, then there would be hope but there is no way that there is a 289 cam that will make it into a 427.

It's just best to stay completely out of the issue. People are violent these days. They could show up at the door with an AR and blame you for all of their dillusions.
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Re: 428 Camshaft selection
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2022, 01:35:00 PM »
They could show up at the door with an AR and blame you for all of their dillusions.

    I wouldn't wish this on anyone, but if one happens to knock on my door in such a fashion,..........well, lets' just say I have my own, and I know how to communicate!   :o

    And I believe a little more of societal self correcting, rather than political correctness, and other current trend selfish behaviors might right the ship!   ::)

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Re: 428 Camshaft selection
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2022, 07:50:00 AM »
You won't have a chance. The maniac will get you from afar when you least expect it. It doesn't matter how well prepared you are.

You may be crossing the street to get a cone from Mr.Softee but he'll already be on top of the roof waiting for you with a scope and a tripod.
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Re: 428 Camshaft selection
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2022, 12:14:58 PM »
     Maybe, and schit happens, but most nut-jobs really don't plan things out, and they're most often not that good.   ::)

     Now, speaking of "afar", I think the .308 cal. is a popular choice; but for me, with some study on the subject (or maybe because I just have to be different  ::) ) I had a Ruger No.1 chambered for .378 Weatherby so I had it re-barreled to .30-378 cal., of a 30" length and mounted a 24X x 50MM (30mm tube) optics.  I fancy the .30 cal. as it proven itself and there are many iterations available, but probably mostly because I have lots of the WWII tungsten carbide core A.P. projectiles; though not so accurate at distance do provide superior penetration, particularly of hardened targets! 

     Sorry for hijacking the thread; so lets' return to the O.P.' s topic of needs of a cam for his 428.  :)

     And since I have participated in running this thread off-course; if the O.P. would like to call me and discuss this:

.............. but knows little of the truly intended whim of the user.


      I would attempt to aid him in providing another perspective on what might be appropriate for his intentions.   :)

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Re: 428 Camshaft selection
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2022, 12:54:59 PM »
Come on guys, no one on here is gonna go postal on a cam selection. Get real. As mentioned, talk to Brent Lykins.
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Re: 428 Camshaft selection
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2022, 07:49:57 PM »
Come on guys, no one on here is gonna go postal on a cam selection. Get real. As mentioned, talk to Brent Lykins.

Sounds like you've lived a sheltered life? Actually the pain from the hat pins in the voodoo doll are more of an issue since they can get you from distances that a rifle can't reach.
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Re: 428 Camshaft selection
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2022, 08:14:03 PM »
Come on guys, no one on here is gonna go postal on a cam selection. Get real. As mentioned, talk to Brent Lykins.

Sounds like you've lived a sheltered life? Actually the pain from the hat pins in the voodoo doll are more of an issue since they can get you from distances that a rifle can't reach.



Huh? Dude, your sounding more like a whack job.
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Re: 428 Camshaft selection
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2022, 08:16:09 PM »
Talk to your supplier / engine builder and go with their recommendation based on your specific needs / wants


Gota say the first suggestion still seems to be the soundest
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Re: 428 Camshaft selection
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2022, 08:16:38 PM »
Come on guys, no one on here is gonna go postal on a cam selection. Get real. As mentioned, talk to Brent Lykins.

Sounds like you've lived a sheltered life? Actually the pain from the hat pins in the voodoo doll are more of an issue since they can get you from distances that a rifle can't reach.



Huh? Dude, your sounding more like a whack job.

 8)
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Re: 428 Camshaft selection
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2022, 08:19:07 PM »
Come on guys, no one on here is gonna go postal on a cam selection. Get real. As mentioned, talk to Brent Lykins.

Sounds like you've lived a sheltered life? Actually the pain from the hat pins in the voodoo doll are more of an issue since they can get you from distances that a rifle can't reach.



Huh? Dude, your sounding more like a whack job.

 8)
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These cars are meant to be driven so enjoy the hell out of all of it. Not just the look of it when its all cleanCS

A person without a sense of humor is like a wagon without springs.It's jolted by every pebble on the road

Florida S.A.A.C Love All-Serve All, Take Time To Be Kind

I have a UNGOLD car