Jim Farley's vision for killing Ford

[Lincoln tech]

I only have been driving Explorers but try to rent an Escape when traveling.  Last one was a 2020 and liked everything about the spirited four cylnder.  Only con was the rear hatch door that swings sideways rather lifting up.

You didn't drive an Escape , You drove a Ecosport 

[crossboss]

Good to know. I hear that the Escapes can and do run for 200K and more miles. Very reliable cars.

How are the new ones. Daughter is looking for a new car for the dogs. 
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'New' Escapes have no data on long term reliability. Why? Because they are new. Personally, I'd buy a used one with good history, and low miles. Stay away from the years mentioned. Also, run away from the Hybirds with higher miles, and older versions...the batteries/electric drives are 'rated' for only 8 years.

[crossboss]

Im seriously considering this very nice 2012 Escape:

[Lincoln tech]

Im seriously considering this very nice 2012 Escape:

Looks good , how many miles , owners , 4 or v6 , fwd or awd

[crossboss]

Im seriously considering this very nice 2012 Escape:

Looks good , how many miles , owners , 4 or v6 , fwd or awd

V-6, FWD, one owner, 117K miles. California car. Never any accidents. Clean history since new.

[Lincoln tech]

V-6, FWD, one owner, 117K miles. California car. Never any accidents. Clean history since new.


  I like the one owner option , looks clean if the price is right go for it , and good luck with it     ( Check for leaking oil pan common on those )

[Scode67FB]

I find it a little odd that this subject took so long to get posted here. I first read about his idea back in Nov. 2021. Not sure if it was around any earlier.
https://www.powernationtv.com/post/ford-looking-to-move-away-from-crowded-dealerships-towards-online-ordering?utm_source=drip&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Ford+Looking+To+Move+Away+From+Crowded+Dealerships%252C+Towards+Online+Ordering


I agree the whole idea sucks. I like being able to special order a vehicle. I've done that a few times. But just like the whole electric vehicle deal, it should be an option, not the law. Viewing a car on a computer screen is not the same as seeing it in person. I'll never buy a car that I can't test drive first, and putting a bunch of people out of work is never a good thing.

On a side note, I received an E-mail yesterday from the dealer where I bought my 2020 F150 Super Crew saying that they're now taking orders for 2023s and promised NO dealer markups.

[Lincoln tech]

On a side note, I received an E-mail yesterday from the dealer where I bought my 2020 F150 Super Crew saying that they're now taking orders for 2023s and promised NO dealer markups.

Once you order and lock the price you agreed on they can't mark it up , if you don't take delivery when it comes in they can put it on the lot and do whatever they want. Sounds like he wants your F-150 as a trade,Smart guy                                 

[crossboss]

V-6, FWD, one owner, 117K miles. California car. Never any accidents. Clean history since new.


  I like the one owner option , looks clean if the price is right go for it , and good luck with it     ( Check for leaking oil pan common on those )

That deal fell out...
However, I found a much better one...the family is selling their mother's Escape because she recently passed away. 77K miles, California car, VERY clean! Similar color combo, silver with two tone grey interior.

[Lincoln tech]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
There you go , and i like the mileage better too .                                                                               

[crossboss]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
There you go , and i like the mileage better too .                                                                             

The only issue is price...they are way over top Blue Book...
Actually, it won't sell even close to ask. I can wait.

[Lincoln tech]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
There you go , and i like the mileage better too .                                                                             

The only issue is price...they are way over top Blue Book...
Actually, it won't sell even close to ask. I can wait.

Market markup  Just drove by a large Honda dealer here in Philly , their lot is Empty all they have is few old vehicles in the front line  so it's not just Ford , my daughter keeps getting massages from a Dodge dealer where she bought her car=== they want her 2020 Charger back 

[crossboss]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
There you go , and i like the mileage better too .                                                                             

The only issue is price...they are way over top Blue Book...
Actually, it won't sell even close to ask. I can wait.

Market markup  Just drove by a large Honda dealer here in Philly , their lot is Empty all they have is few old vehicles in the front line  so it's not just Ford , my daughter keeps getting massages from a Dodge dealer where she bought her car=== they want her 2020 Charger back 

Yep. I see alot of cars just sitting, new, used, and private party. These sellers 'think' they are doing us a favor with the high pricing. Nope, like I said, I can wait.