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1967 Taillight Lenses for GT500 350 which are correct

Started by Kent, September 20, 2022, 02:46:19 AM

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Kent

Does somebody here has some pictures of the correct taillight lenses. I have 6 or 7 sets from what appears to be original nos, the ones in my shelby which also appear correct and some reproductions with FoMoCo logo and numbers. How can I exactly tell which ones are original and which not? Are they really so close in finish and numbers or is there something I´m missing how to divide them?
SAAC Member from Germany and Owner of a unrestored 1967 Shelby GT500, 1968 1/2 Cobra Jet´s and some nice Mustang Fastback´s 67/68

Cobrask8

#1
Shouldn't they resemble the Cougar taillights, but not have the clear end-caps for the license plate? I do not have the part number if it is a special mold for the Shelby's.

If they are the Cougar items, then a 1967 Ford/Cougar part number - C7WY-13450

JD

They do have the clear portion to illuminate the license plate even though it's not there.

Wide Black tape (like used to hold the fuel sending unit wire in the trunk) was put over the hole where the light unit for the (Cougar) plate was now not needed.

Added image, the yellow arrow is pointing to the tape that is falling off.
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nctrucks

Here is some photo's: NOS Assy S7MS-13404-A
I matched the lenses perfectly to the Cougar C7WY-13450-B.

nctrucks

More Photo's: I did check the 67 Cougar housing is also a exact match to the 67 Shelby.

Bob Gaines

Quote from: nctrucks on September 20, 2022, 12:29:23 PM
More Photo's: I did check the 67 Cougar housing is also a exact match to the 67 Shelby.
The plug with the red wire was not used on a 67 Shelby. They typically had the green wire . The plugs with green wires were used on both sides.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

nctrucks

Service replacement?  I have a pair  Dated 12-12-73

Bob Gaines

#7
Quote from: nctrucks on September 20, 2022, 01:35:44 PM
Service replacement?  I have a pair  Dated 12-12-73
Possibly a service part or PO repair using a piece cut from Cougar harness. The one in the picture has a D3 engineering number that indicates at least a 1973 part.  Over the counter service replacements parts are many times found to be different then assemblyline.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Kent

I mean the glass sorry maybe I was wrong with my English, but also the housing is interesting. Maybe its good to talk about the whole unit. Was there a change beside the bezel frame which changed in the later production also for housing, glass etc. Thanks.
SAAC Member from Germany and Owner of a unrestored 1967 Shelby GT500, 1968 1/2 Cobra Jet´s and some nice Mustang Fastback´s 67/68

J_Speegle

Quote from: nctrucks on September 20, 2022, 01:35:44 PM
Service replacement?  I have a pair  Dated 12-12-73

Notice that the wire tag id number reflects a 73 part/engineering number in your picture posted.

Service part/replacement = A part made for Ford by them or a subcontracting company, to sell as a replacement for an original part. Not always designed to look exactly like the original but would serve as a replacement and operate correctly in the intended application
Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and Judge

Bob Gaines

Quote from: Kent on September 20, 2022, 02:38:06 PM
I mean the glass sorry maybe I was wrong with my English, but also the housing is interesting. Maybe its good to talk about the whole unit. Was there a change beside the bezel frame which changed in the later production also for housing, glass etc. Thanks.
No glass and not a problem because I know you must mean plastic lens. The bezel frame remained the same throughout production.   
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Kent

but the bezel frame was different mounted from early to later. Correct?

Does somebody can put some pictures online how to see the glass is correct or repro?
SAAC Member from Germany and Owner of a unrestored 1967 Shelby GT500, 1968 1/2 Cobra Jet´s and some nice Mustang Fastback´s 67/68

Bob Gaines

Quote from: Kent on September 21, 2022, 02:59:38 AM
but the bezel frame was different mounted from early to later. Correct?

Does somebody can put some pictures online how to see the glass is correct or repro?
Sorry ,to clarify the die cast housing that holds the bulbs ,plastic lens and the bezel or trim that surrounds the lens was the same throughout production. The cast aluminum bezel trim had studs to hold the lens on early production and was solid in appearance on the outside . The later production of the same part evolved to use long thin Philips head machine screws that went through holes made into the bezel trim which is seen from the outside. 
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Bob Gaines

Quote from: Kent on September 21, 2022, 02:59:38 AM

Does somebody can put some pictures online how to see the glass is correct or repro?                                           
From the outside the repro plastic lens looks identical to the original . When you turn the lens over and look at the backside you can tell that the lens is made noticeably thicker when compared to a original. Originals had a tendency to develop age cracks seen on the outside surface of the lens over time. By making the lens thicker in that area lessons the chance of that problem happening. It is one of the few examples where the repro part is made better yet look assemblyline correct from the outside compared to the original part.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

JD

Quote from: Kent on September 21, 2022, 02:59:38 AM
but the bezel frame was different mounted from early to later. Correct?

Does somebody can put some pictures online how to see the glass is correct or repro?

Yes, there were two versions of the cast aluminum trim bezels, early had smooth outer surface and later had the visible stud ends.

'67 Shelby Headlight Bucket Grommets https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=254.0
'67 Shelby Lower Grille Edge Protective Strip https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.0