Thanks Jay. If the 2 hole variety is not any shorter, then I'll try the 4 hole style. I had a license plate bracket that only attached to the top of the license plate, and apparently, turbulent air behind the car made the plate wobble back and forth, until the bracket broke and I lost my license plate on an elevated freeway transition road. I went back through, and the plate was nowhere to be seen, I think it went over the side. I made a bracket that attaches to the car behind both the light and the trunk release handle, so I want to use all 4 holes to hold the plate and frame to my new bracket. This new bracket is flush with the trunk, and that extra height for the license plate frame will likely interfere with the trunk handle. The license plate itself, with a thin plain frame (no wording, etc) just fits between the light and handle, not much room for the overhang of the license frames that have wording at the bottom. If the interference is minimal, I'll see if some minor grinding on the bottom of the frame will provide enough clearance to allow the plate and frame to stay flush to the body.