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Re: Brand New American Gas Powered Vehicle Clicks Off 10.5 in 1/4 mile
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2022, 01:02:10 PM »
People are going to buy these cars. Some of them will be wrapped in a bubble with a few miles on them and never see the light of day until it's time for the auction. Some of their owners will actually put them on a dyno and take them to a race track. People will record them going down the track. If the numbers recorded are what they're claiming, hats off to Chevrolet for making such a fast car! If you put the numbers in an internet quarter mile calculator (670 horsepower, I figured 3650 pounds with driver and good traction) It shows a 10.73 et at 126.9 mph. Upping the power to 715 got a 10.50 et at 130.1 mph. Is it a ringer or is Chevrolet claiming less horsepower than it actually has? Time will tell. But it certainly wouldn't be the first time a car manufacturer intentionally under rated their horsepower numbers. 
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Re: Brand New American Gas Powered Vehicle Clicks Off 10.5 in 1/4 mile
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2022, 02:14:21 PM »
We must learn to enjoy and celebrate the ( Ford or Chevy ) moment as soon you will only hear the whisper of the windings of an electric motor.....
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Re: Brand New American Gas Powered Vehicle Clicks Off 10.5 in 1/4 mile
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2022, 03:04:18 PM »
We must learn to enjoy and celebrate the ( Ford or Chevy ) moment as soon you will only hear the whisper of the windings of an electric motor.....
Unless you live in FL and are without electricity.
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Re: Brand New American Gas Powered Vehicle Clicks Off 10.5 in 1/4 mile
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2022, 03:17:01 PM »
We must learn to enjoy and celebrate the ( Ford or Chevy ) moment as soon you will only hear the whisper of the windings of an electric motor.....
Unless you live in FL and are without electricity.


Thank the Lawd for fossil fueled generators humming through out the night n day  !
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Re: Brand New American Gas Powered Vehicle Clicks Off 10.5 in 1/4 mile
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2022, 03:59:06 PM »
Tony, is that you in the last pic?
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Re: Brand New American Gas Powered Vehicle Clicks Off 10.5 in 1/4 mile
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2022, 04:09:13 PM »
Tony, is that you in the last pic?

Why yes it is....find me attractive?

We have a picture of you also swimming after the hurricane,  looking good Lolito  !
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« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2022, 04:25:35 PM »
Tony, is that you in the last pic?

Why yes it is....find be attractive?

We have a picture of you also swimming after the hurricane,  looking good Lolito  !




Yikes! No wonder you need a 600-700 horsepower car...
Sorry, buddy, I'm 5'11" 165 pounds...AND a lot younger than you. LOL.
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1968 GT-350--Gold
1970 GT-500--#3129--Grabber Orange.
Current lifelong projects:
1969 Mustang Fastback/FOX chassis, 5 speed, 4 wheel discs, with a modern Can-Am 494 (Boss 429), Kaase heads, intake with a 1425 cfm 'B' Autolite Inline carb, ala Trans-Am style
1968/70 Olds 442 W-30

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Re: Brand New American Gas Powered Vehicle Clicks Off 10.5 in 1/4 mile
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2022, 04:29:10 PM »
Van,
When you were at Motor Trend, I was not. As you know, they went through several new owners, and several editors during this time. The Aussie guy that was installed as so called 'editor' was a nice guy, however he was 'told' what to do/say from upstairs. All of our 1/4 mile stuff was done @ Fontana. I will never forget the test 'results'. As an example, lets say they tested a supercharged Jag....its actual ET was 14.78. Motor Trend's GPS tracker/timer would say 14.99. So, what did the editors 'claim' it did in print? 13.90. FALSE!! Saw it with my own eyes and through the video cameras lens as a witness. Of course, the video was edited to show only it going down the strip. Only a voice over to say 13.90...lol. One last thing about MT--when they were conducting one of their famous 'Car Of The Year' award, I remember filming it, and the one they picked was always dead last in the tests. It also broke down many times. I asked John the MT-TV host why? He was honest with me and said: "We had too. Range Rover paid for it" There ya go...
Whats ironic about all of this, test ringers were used in the sixties also as Van mentioned. Think your 426 Hemi ran 12s...hah! Fake news. Speaking of Jim Wangers, I actually asked him about that famous test GTO...he had a nice chuckle...and also told me about his later Firebird tests...thats for another thread.

HOLY CRAP!  I'd heard that things went downhill after I left, but that's what "the person who left" ALWAYS wants to hear, right?

I do know that the guys on what I called my "A Team" (that were still at MT for a year or so after I left) told me. They said that the rules had turned to shite on the one hand, and yet became draconian on the other.  A couple of those staff editors left on their own accord, because of the heavy-handed bureaucracy.

Brett is correct that COY is (was?) a huge revenue generator. Thus the spinoffs of Truck of the Year, Import Car of the Year and SUV of the Year (we soon allowed import cars into the formerly domestic-only Car of the Year award.)  That's why I and my staff took it all seriously.

And, also to give the readers a thorough test and evaluation of the most significant new vehicles.  I changed the testing parameters to put lesser emphasis on track performance and added categories for quality, safety, technical design, styling, and value. That helped level the playing field in the years when you're comparing a widely varied field such as a Tercel, Corvette, Mercedes C Class, and Lincoln Town Car. There's no way to equitably pick a winner from that group simply by comparing against each other on test track.

It ain't rocket science, but we did take it seriously and did the best job we could. Anyone who doubts me can talk to any of my former "A Team" staffers themselves.  (As any owner/manager knows: People that you've fired might have axes to grind, and thus make up shite to say against you. I know who those people are.)   
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Re: Brand New American Gas Powered Vehicle Clicks Off 10.5 in 1/4 mile
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2022, 04:36:01 PM »
Tony, is that you in the last pic?

Why yes it is....find be attractive?

We have a picture of you also swimming after the hurricane,  looking good Lolito  !




Yikes! No wonder you need a 600-700 horsepower car...
Sorry, buddy, I'm 5'11" 165 pounds...AND a lot younger than you. LOL.

I once dated someone like you....5-11 and 165

Back to the topic at hand:

Mucho fasto  !

60 mph: 2.6 sec 
100 mph: 5.9 sec
130 mph: 10.3 sec
1/4-Mile: 10.5 sec @ 131 mph
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Re: Brand New American Gas Powered Vehicle Clicks Off 10.5 in 1/4 mile
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2022, 04:39:09 PM »
Van,
When you were at Motor Trend, I was not. As you know, they went through several new owners, and several editors during this time. The Aussie guy that was installed as so called 'editor' was a nice guy, however he was 'told' what to do/say from upstairs. All of our 1/4 mile stuff was done @ Fontana. I will never forget the test 'results'. As an example, lets say they tested a supercharged Jag....its actual ET was 14.78. Motor Trend's GPS tracker/timer would say 14.99. So, what did the editors 'claim' it did in print? 13.90. FALSE!! Saw it with my own eyes and through the video cameras lens as a witness. Of course, the video was edited to show only it going down the strip. Only a voice over to say 13.90...lol. One last thing about MT--when they were conducting one of their famous 'Car Of The Year' award, I remember filming it, and the one they picked was always dead last in the tests. It also broke down many times. I asked John the MT-TV host why? He was honest with me and said: "We had too. Range Rover paid for it" There ya go...
Whats ironic about all of this, test ringers were used in the sixties also as Van mentioned. Think your 426 Hemi ran 12s...hah! Fake news. Speaking of Jim Wangers, I actually asked him about that famous test GTO...he had a nice chuckle...and also told me about his later Firebird tests...thats for another thread.

HOLY CRAP!  I'd heard that things went downhill after I left, but that's what "the person who left" ALWAYS wants to hear, right?

I do know that the guys on what I called my "A Team" (that were still at MT for a year or so after I left) told me. They said that the rules had turned to shite on the one hand, and yet became draconian on the other.  A couple of those staff editors left on their own accord, because of the weird set of new rules.

Brett is correct that COY is (was?) a huge revenue generator. Thus the spinoffs of Truck of the Year, Import Car of the Year and SUV of the Year (we soon allowed import cars into the formerly domestic-only Car of the Year award.)  That's why I and my staff took it all seriously.

And, also to give the readers a thorough test and evaluation of the most significant new vehicles.  I changed the testing parameters to put lesser emphasis on track performance and added categories for quality, safety, technical design, styling, and value. That helped level the playing field in the years when you're comparing a widely varied field such as a Tercel, Corvette, Mercedes C Class, and Lincoln Town Car. There's no way to pick a winner from that group simply by comparing against each other on test track.

It ain't rocket science, but we did take it seriously and did the best job we could. Anyone who doubts me can talk to any of my former "A Team" staffers themselves.  People that I fired might have axes to grind.   




Van,
Yeah, all of that corporate greed had a lot to do with it. You are correct, the good 'veteran' editors and prob the same 'A Team guys' you are referring to did leave because of all the BS. I DO give credit to Brian Vance and Kiwi for holding down the fort....as long as they could. Pri-Media was a shite company to work for. Always late on my pay checks with tons of errors. Thats another story for another thread...
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1968 GT-350--Gold
1970 GT-500--#3129--Grabber Orange.
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1969 Mustang Fastback/FOX chassis, 5 speed, 4 wheel discs, with a modern Can-Am 494 (Boss 429), Kaase heads, intake with a 1425 cfm 'B' Autolite Inline carb, ala Trans-Am style
1968/70 Olds 442 W-30

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Re: Brand New American Gas Powered Vehicle Clicks Off 10.5 in 1/4 mile
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2022, 04:40:14 PM »
Tony, is that you in the last pic?

Why yes it is....find be attractive?

We have a picture of you also swimming after the hurricane,  looking good Lolito  !




Yikes! No wonder you need a 600-700 horsepower car...
Sorry, buddy, I'm 5'11" 165 pounds...AND a lot younger than you. LOL.

I once dated someone like you....5-11 and 165

Back to the topic at hand:

Mucho fasto  !

60 mph: 2.6 sec
100 mph: 5.9 sec
130 mph: 10.3 sec
1/4-Mile: 10.5 sec @ 131 mph




Tony,
What was HIS name? lol
Past owned Shelby's:
1968 GT-350--Gold
1970 GT-500--#3129--Grabber Orange.
Current lifelong projects:
1969 Mustang Fastback/FOX chassis, 5 speed, 4 wheel discs, with a modern Can-Am 494 (Boss 429), Kaase heads, intake with a 1425 cfm 'B' Autolite Inline carb, ala Trans-Am style
1968/70 Olds 442 W-30

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Re: Brand New American Gas Powered Vehicle Clicks Off 10.5 in 1/4 mile
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2022, 04:47:02 PM »
Tony, is that you in the last pic?

Why yes it is....find be attractive?

We have a picture of you also swimming after the hurricane,  looking good Lolito  !




Yikes! No wonder you need a 600-700 horsepower car...
Sorry, buddy, I'm 5'11" 165 pounds...AND a lot younger than you. LOL.

I once dated someone like you....5-11 and 165

Back to the topic at hand:

Mucho fasto  !

60 mph: 2.6 sec
100 mph: 5.9 sec
130 mph: 10.3 sec
1/4-Mile: 10.5 sec @ 131 mph




Tony,
What was HIS name? lol

" Thats another story for another thread.."   over and over LMAO
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Re: Brand New American Gas Powered Vehicle Clicks Off 10.5 in 1/4 mile
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2022, 04:51:53 PM »
Tony, is that you in the last pic?

Why yes it is....find be attractive?

We have a picture of you also swimming after the hurricane,  looking good Lolito  !




Yikes! No wonder you need a 600-700 horsepower car...
Sorry, buddy, I'm 5'11" 165 pounds...AND a lot younger than you. LOL.

I once dated someone like you....5-11 and 165

Back to the topic at hand:

Mucho fasto  !

60 mph: 2.6 sec
100 mph: 5.9 sec
130 mph: 10.3 sec
1/4-Mile: 10.5 sec @ 131 mph




Tony,
What was HIS name? lol

" Thats another story for another thread.."   over and over LMAO




Tony is just like a Democrat: pointing fingers, making accusations to others what he is guilty of.
Btw, Tony you are avoiding my original question...
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Past owned Shelby's:
1968 GT-350--Gold
1970 GT-500--#3129--Grabber Orange.
Current lifelong projects:
1969 Mustang Fastback/FOX chassis, 5 speed, 4 wheel discs, with a modern Can-Am 494 (Boss 429), Kaase heads, intake with a 1425 cfm 'B' Autolite Inline carb, ala Trans-Am style
1968/70 Olds 442 W-30

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Re: Brand New American Gas Powered Vehicle Clicks Off 10.5 in 1/4 mile
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2022, 05:16:08 PM »
Let's continue with this truly amazing topic:

2023 Corvette Z06 Review // The $100,000 Supercar

https://youtu.be/Dn6gmBQUTdg
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Re: Brand New American Gas Powered Vehicle Clicks Off 10.5 in 1/4 mile
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2022, 10:15:24 PM »
Kinda reminds me of whack a mole at the arcade minus the physical workout.