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Started by shelbymann1970, February 10, 2023, 10:11:31 AM

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shelbymann1970

This is a piece I don't think I've ever seen discussed. So did the air cleaners change at all during the model year? Second how were they painted? Were they all blue or was there black on the inside where the filter sat? I'd like to see some pics of original air cleaners if possible including their crimp nuts for the snorkel screws. Thanks. Gary
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)

crossboss

As far as I know, they are the same as any 4V 351 Windsor. Same Ford blue color, and snorkel.
Past owned Shelby's:
1968 GT-350--Gold
1970 GT-500--#3129--Grabber Orange.
Current lifelong projects:
1969 Mustang Fastback/FOX chassis, 5 speed, 4 wheel discs, with a modern Can-Am 494 (Boss 429), Kaase heads, intake with a 1425 cfm 'B' Autolite Inline carb, ala Trans-Am style
1968/70 Olds 442 W-30

Bob Gaines

Quote from: shelbymann1970 on February 10, 2023, 10:11:31 AM
This is a piece I don't think I've ever seen discussed. So did the air cleaners change at all during the model year? Second how were they painted? Were they all blue or was there black on the inside where the filter sat? I'd like to see some pics of original air cleaners if possible including their crimp nuts for the snorkel screws. Thanks. Gary
Am am not aware of a change during production for the air cleaner base and snorkle. If there was I would like to be enlightened . I have seen black in the center . It seemed like a mask was used because no hard edges . The black did not extend much if at all to where the filter was seated.At least on many I have seen.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Coralsnake

I think the contact area to the carburetor gasket was not painted
The original Influencer, check out www.thecoralsnake.com

shelbymann1970

I thought I'd ask on the production change as I have not seen any. I do have a few air cleaners that look alike BUT one has round and not square snorkel nuts. The inner black I've seen on NOS 428 units but was wondering if on 351/390 units. My original air cleaner(got 2 that look alike) I'm getting ready to restore and want to do them right as the one on the car was the best base when I restored it 25 years ago(have some pitting on my original on the inside bowl). Thanks guys for the insight. I'd still like to see some pics if any have them of original units.
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)

shelbymann1970

Quote from: crossboss on February 10, 2023, 10:46:56 AM
As far as I know, they are the same as any 4V 351 Windsor. Same Ford blue color, and snorkel.
Also I'd say a 390 non shaker also. To be clear not all 351 4V are the same. The late year shaker option got you I believe to be the smaller diameter CJ one and that is why a 351W shaker snorkel is longer and very rare.
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)

crossboss

Quote from: shelbymann1970 on February 10, 2023, 01:44:54 PM
Quote from: crossboss on February 10, 2023, 10:46:56 AM
As far as I know, they are the same as any 4V 351 Windsor. Same Ford blue color, and snorkel.
Also I'd say a 390 non shaker also. To be clear not all 351 4V are the same. The late year shaker option got you I believe to be the smaller diameter CJ one and that is why a 351W shaker snorkel is longer and very rare.



Your question was about a GT-350 air cleaner, correct? Not about Shakers. I'm quite sure you are correct on your above comments.
Past owned Shelby's:
1968 GT-350--Gold
1970 GT-500--#3129--Grabber Orange.
Current lifelong projects:
1969 Mustang Fastback/FOX chassis, 5 speed, 4 wheel discs, with a modern Can-Am 494 (Boss 429), Kaase heads, intake with a 1425 cfm 'B' Autolite Inline carb, ala Trans-Am style
1968/70 Olds 442 W-30

J_Speegle

Quote from: Coralsnake on February 10, 2023, 01:34:50 PM
I think the contact area to the carburetor gasket was not painted

+1
Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and Judge

shelbymann1970

Quote from: crossboss on February 10, 2023, 02:16:57 PM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on February 10, 2023, 01:44:54 PM
Quote from: crossboss on February 10, 2023, 10:46:56 AM
As far as I know, they are the same as any 4V 351 Windsor. Same Ford blue color, and snorkel.
Also I'd say a 390 non shaker also. To be clear not all 351 4V are the same. The late year shaker option got you I believe to be the smaller diameter CJ one and that is why a 351W shaker snorkel is longer and very rare.



Your question was about a GT-350 air cleaner, correct? Not about Shakers. I'm quite sure you are correct on your above comments.
Yes .you are correct. Thanks. I just wanted to be clear for all of 69s even though this is a Shelby page because of your "any" 351 W.
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)

TOBKOB

I tried to find the thread from long ago but to no avail that showed the bottom under where the filter sits was painted black. Like Bob said they had no hard taped edges. I duplicated the process even though you can't see it when installed.

TOB
1969 GT350 owned since 1970

shelbymann1970

Quote from: TOBKOB on February 11, 2023, 10:09:55 AM
I tried to find the thread from long ago but to no avail that showed the bottom under where the filter sits was painted black. Like Bob said they had no hard taped edges. I duplicated the process even though you can't see it when installed.

TOB
I'd like to see originals as if there isn't a hard line they used a template so with an open top lid  is it possible past the air filter some black could be seen?
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)

Bob Gaines

Quote from: shelbymann1970 on February 11, 2023, 11:11:40 AM
Quote from: TOBKOB on February 11, 2023, 10:09:55 AM
I tried to find the thread from long ago but to no avail that showed the bottom under where the filter sits was painted black. Like Bob said they had no hard taped edges. I duplicated the process even though you can't see it when installed.

TOB
I'd like to see originals as if there isn't a hard line they used a template so with an open top lid  is it possible past the air filter some black could be seen?
It is course possible but not likely.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

shelbymann1970

Quote from: Bob Gaines on February 11, 2023, 12:30:06 PM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on February 11, 2023, 11:11:40 AM
Quote from: TOBKOB on February 11, 2023, 10:09:55 AM
I tried to find the thread from long ago but to no avail that showed the bottom under where the filter sits was painted black. Like Bob said they had no hard taped edges. I duplicated the process even though you can't see it when installed.

TOB
I'd like to see originals as if there isn't a hard line they used a template so with an open top lid  is it possible past the air filter some black could be seen?
It is course possible but not likely.
Thanks.
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)