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Trying to get background info on my GT350-H - 8T02J149344-01143

Started by Michael Bol, May 14, 2023, 03:50:16 PM

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Bob Gaines

Someone did a excellent job recreating the tag. The VIN plate has the correct nuance details and reverse stamped letters and numbers are indexed the same. The typical repro plate is easily spotted and the number and letter execution are off. Without the patina VIN plate to so show comparison that the tag had been replaced it would be hard to tell by that it alone. 
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Coralsnake

I expressed to Michael the only way to resolve this is to inspect both cars carefully and in person. Additionally, research needs to be carefully conducted on histories.

It becomes particularly difficult if each retains some original parts.

Its never good when two cars have the same numbers

tesgt350

Quote from: Coralsnake on May 18, 2023, 10:27:36 AM
I expressed to Michael the only way to resolve this is to inspect both cars carefully and in person. Additionally, research needs to be carefully conducted on histories.

It becomes particularly difficult if each retains some original parts.

Its never good when two cars have the same numbers

Have anyone going through the older SAAC Registries to see when that VIN# was first registered and looked at the details?

Coralsnake


J_Speegle

Quote from: Michael Bol on May 18, 2023, 04:24:13 AM
Are you sure the GT at Aalderink is a fake? Is there any proof? It is recentst for sale.
Looks pretty good with all the documentation and Aalderink is a pretty famous and solid dealer who has a good name. I should be sure when I tell them.

Unfortunately, business and people get deceived all the time. Can't count the number of times the "bad news" has had to be delivered to unknowing sellers and owners. That is why we try hard to keep others from making the same mistakes or possibly taking the risks. History\, documentation and VIN's don't tell the whole story it's the current facts and findings that should provide the true current conditions.

Even with the internet and access to tons more information than was possible in decades past locations, buyers and cars outside of the US and North America have a more difficult challenge. In the last year help buyers in Hungary and Norway. In both cases the cars were not what they were claimed to be. Unfortunately one contact was after the purchase and had been moved from one country to another adding to the challenges. 

Good luck
Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and Judge

JohnB

Quote from: J_Speegle on May 18, 2023, 04:27:41 PM

.......In the last year help buyers in Hungary and Norway......


Hmmm. Wonder if I know about that one...?

JohnB


Coralsnake


Coralsnake

We can start a new thread on the red car if it goes further...

5s386

I have information on your Shelby #1143. Please PM me. Thanks.

Michael Bol

I got the registry today. Great!!
Kind regards,

Michael Bol

1968 Shelby GT500KR - VIN 8T02R203104-02322
1968 Shelby GT350-H - VIN 8T02J149344-01143 (sold)
1970 Mustang BOSS 302 - VIN: 0F02G160395 (for sale)
1970 Mustang Coupe 302 - VIN: 0R01F153073 (sold)
1965 Corvette C2 327-300 - 194675S114520

Coralsnake

It appears the history of the two cars is mixed together.

I am working to help sort out the two cars with the club

Michael you should start a new posting so we can fond this information later

Michael Bol

You allready did. I won't by the car. But I will bring the discussion to their attention.
Kind regards,

Michael Bol

1968 Shelby GT500KR - VIN 8T02R203104-02322
1968 Shelby GT350-H - VIN 8T02J149344-01143 (sold)
1970 Mustang BOSS 302 - VIN: 0F02G160395 (for sale)
1970 Mustang Coupe 302 - VIN: 0R01F153073 (sold)
1965 Corvette C2 327-300 - 194675S114520

Coralsnake