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Started by 1109RWHP, January 22, 2018, 12:02:12 AM

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Side-Oilers

^^ Reminds me of a guy I knew in high school who argued that his car was faster in the 1/4 mile with the hood off, because of less weight and more airflow to the carburetor.

Others of us in the group said it would actually be slower in trap speed because of the wind resistance. 

This all took place one rainy Sunday, with no chance to get to the track and see.  By the following weekend, after he had to drive his hoodless car in the rain for 5 days, he'd put the hood back on.

So...in a stock 289 Mustang: Would 50 pounds (or whatever the hood weighs) less weight and more airflow (assuming more air actually gets to the carb and doesn't just cause engine compartment turbulence) beat the resulting increase in wind resistance? 

I realize that wind resistance is not much of the equation until 50+ mph. So, in 0-50 mph, maybe it would/could be quicker by a few hundredths.

Thoughts?
Current:
2006 FGT, Tungsten. Whipple, HRE 20s, Ohlin coil-overs. Top Speed Certified 210.7 mph.

Kirkham Cobra 427.  482-inch aluminum side-oiler. Tremec 5-spd.

Previous:
1968 GT500KR #2575 (1982-2022)
1970 Ranchero GT 429
1969 LTD Country Squire 429
1963 T-Bird Sport Roadster
1957 T-Bird E-model

rhjanes

Quote from: Side-Oilers on December 23, 2022, 11:37:10 PM
^^ Reminds me of a guy I knew in high school who argued that his car was faster in the 1/4 mile with the hood off, because of less weight and more airflow to the carburetor.

Others of us in the group said it would actually be slower in trap speed because of the wind resistance. 

This all took place one rainy Sunday, with no chance to get to the track and see.  By the following weekend, after he had to drive his hoodless car in the rain for 5 days, he'd put the hood back on.

So...in a stock 289 Mustang: Would 50 pounds (or whatever the hood weighs) less weight and more airflow (assuming more air actually gets to the carb and doesn't just cause engine compartment turbulence) beat the resulting increase in wind resistance? 

I realize that wind resistance is not much of the equation until 50+ mph. So, in 0-50 mph, maybe it would/could be quicker by a few hundredths.

Thoughts?

Wait until the kid with the 2 foot tall spoiler bolted on the back of the 4-door Corolla see's this........
Pirating!  Corporate take-over without the paperwork

98SVT - was 06GT

#3977
Quote from: honker on December 20, 2022, 01:14:27 PM
One more, at Irwindale, with the old man's signature.
The famous Irwindale Snack Bar - served unbranded In-N-Out burgers. Harry Snyder who owned In-N-Out was a partner in Irwindale. His son Guy was a big drag race fan. His daughter still owns the 289 Cobra her dad bought - and the company.

But the real Irwindale highlight was Jungle Pam - too bad NHRA started requiring long pants and banned halter tops on the starting line.
Previous owner 6S843 - GT350H & 68 GT500 Convert #135.
Mine: GT1 Mustang Track Toy, 1998 SVT Cobra, Wife's: 2004 Tbird
Member since 1975 - priceless

98SVT - was 06GT

I stuck this one here since I don't know if the top car is real.
The driver was smart enough to load the leaky Model A on the bottom. They held the record for oil leaks until the Corvair was introduced.
Previous owner 6S843 - GT350H & 68 GT500 Convert #135.
Mine: GT1 Mustang Track Toy, 1998 SVT Cobra, Wife's: 2004 Tbird
Member since 1975 - priceless

TOBKOB

QuoteThe driver was smart enough to load the leaky Model A on the bottom. They held the record for oil leaks until the Corvair was introduced

Only because they were engineered without a rear main bearing seal... ;)   :)

TOB
1969 GT350 owned since 1970

98SVT - was 06GT

Quote from: TOBKOB on December 24, 2022, 07:25:44 PM
QuoteThe driver was smart enough to load the leaky Model A on the bottom. They held the record for oil leaks until the Corvair was introduced

Only because they were engineered without a rear main bearing seal... ;)   :)

TOB
Well they had a "seal" but it was more like a guide to steer the oil to the return tube and into the pan. The new ones are aluminum. It only has a slinger in the front. The oil that got by the rear main was absorbed by a felt pad in the bottom of the bellhousing and leaked from there to lube the attachment point of the front wishbone - then onto your garage floor.
Previous owner 6S843 - GT350H & 68 GT500 Convert #135.
Mine: GT1 Mustang Track Toy, 1998 SVT Cobra, Wife's: 2004 Tbird
Member since 1975 - priceless

TOBKOB

Yep... actually there is also an x carved in the babbitt  to drain the oil toward the return tube. Some folks do machine the crank and install a modern seal these days.

TOB
1969 GT350 owned since 1970

honker

'68 notch at Indianapolis Raceway Park, has some thing written on the side, promo from a dealer ?

tesgt350

Quote from: TA Coupe on December 20, 2022, 08:05:45 PM
Quote from: tesgt350 on December 20, 2022, 10:29:26 AM
Was this a real 67 Shelby and if so, is it still around?

If it weren't around you know who would find it before long.


         Roy

Gas Monkey Richard?



557


TA Coupe

Quote from: tesgt350 on December 25, 2022, 11:38:02 PM
Quote from: TA Coupe on December 20, 2022, 08:05:45 PM
Quote from: tesgt350 on December 20, 2022, 10:29:26 AM
Was this a real 67 Shelby and if so, is it still around?

If it weren't around you know who would find it before long.


         Roy

Gas Monkey Richard?

His buddy

    Roy
If it starts it's streetable.
Overkill is just enough.

Cobra Ned

If anyone is keeping track, the In-N-Out Cobra s CSX 2408. And boy could I use a double-double with cheese about now.

honker

Quote from: Cobra Ned on December 26, 2022, 09:40:21 AM
If anyone is keeping track, the In-N-Out Cobra s CSX 2408. And boy could I use a double-double with cheese about now.

Thanks for that,  interesting history in my older registry.