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NOS 1968-1970 Lucas Lamps.

Started by shelbymann1970, October 26, 2023, 05:45:02 AM

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shelbymann1970

Quote from: Bob Gaines on October 26, 2023, 12:59:37 PM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on October 26, 2023, 11:36:16 AM
Does anyone make the small black grommet? I like to refer it it as an O-ring even though it isn't one but looks like one installed if that makes sense.
I have found comparable substitutes in the yellow serv a lite boxes at the hardware store . I don't think it is anything very special.
Thanks Bob.
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)

Coralsnake

Mr Gaines is correct, nothing special about the grommet. Unfortunately the hole size in the housing differs for the two types of wiring leads. You can not just put in a black grommet on the grey housings.
The original Influencer, check out www.thecoralsnake.com

SCJSTU

so is this the correct cover Gary posted?

And does it snap on or have straps?
1969 Shelby GT350 convertible 4 speed/ AC
Built Jan 1969 Red/Black

1967 S-Code 4 spd Black/Parchment
2004 Mustang Mach 1
1956 Ford F-100 Big Window 392 Hemi
1957 F-100 Fridge
1963 Falcon Ranchero
1961 Econoline PU
1961 Falcon 2 dr wagon
1970 Challenger R/T vert 4 speed
1970 Chevy Blazer 2WD

Coralsnake

Covers were not used on the Shelbys.
The original Influencer, check out www.thecoralsnake.com

propayne

^^^ as Pete said - but FWIW the covers used rubber straps.

Very, very difficult to get the straps around the lights when installed in the G front valance.

- Phillip
President, Delmarva Cougar Club - Brand Manager, Cougar Club of America

Bob Gaines

Quote from: SCJSTU on October 26, 2023, 01:45:30 PM
so is this the correct cover Gary posted?

And does it snap on or have straps?
Yes correct 68-70 period cover with rubber straps if you bought Lucas light from anyplace except Ford.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

shelbymann1970

#21
Quote from: Coralsnake on October 26, 2023, 02:24:07 PM
Covers were not used on the Shelbys.
+1 That is why my NOS Ford one I posted a pic of came with no cover. The correct Lucas ones in the Lucas boxes came with covers. Like Pete said there are more than 1 housing. The correct housing I have found is the small hole housing using the small black grommet that looks like an O-ring.  I have a few lens variances  lined up in the pic below.
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)

shelbymann1970

Looking at my NOS pieces I think this is the first style with the "A" on the left.
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)

shelbymann1970

Then this style was after. Next to the A is SAEF68 vertically.
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)

shelbymann1970

This is what I think is a later 68-69 style. Has E11 on the right side.
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)

shelbymann1970

I also have with a "M5" on the lower right corner(all referenced by looking at them).I have no clue as to the "M5". I have the M5 on both E11s and non E11s. I also have E11s and non E11s without the M5.
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)

shelbymann1970

I'm not sure what this was used on (Calif specials?) but it is a circa 68 also but the clear ENGLAND lens. I bought this one for the early housing.
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)

shelbymann1970

#27
Quote from: SCJSTU on October 26, 2023, 01:45:30 PM
so is this the correct cover Gary posted?

And does it snap on or have straps?
All Lucas covers from the 60s and into the 70s used straps. That cover was circa 68-9 for non Shelby Lucas lamps. Then they went to a later style. One of my NOS E11 ENGLAND  glass has the later style cover on it and a large gray grommet on the housing. While not original I recommend the full black early style covers for protection while driving. first pic early cover. Also notice the early style has "ENGLAND" molded into it. I found that pic with a NOS set of lamps for sale but the lamps had the larger grommet housings and "Foreign Glass" in them.
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)

FL SAAC

Quote from: FL SAAC on October 26, 2023, 08:24:36 AM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on October 26, 2023, 06:23:52 AM
Quote from: FL SAAC on October 26, 2023, 06:17:06 AM
Correct ones? Black grommet housings and England glass(Not "made in England", blank or "Foreign Glass"). These are the earliest lenses also. There were 2 variants at least I have been told. I also have an NOS lamp with the gray grommet housing with a later "69" lens.

Probably, I have a "bunch" of them. Also have hoods, front fiberglass parts, fenders, front bumpers, set of paradise repro wheels circa 2000s, a few original wheels, some mirrors,  console / gauges, grille, grille aluminum piece, hood chrome pieces,  fender eye brows rechromed, emblems, roll bar for hard top and panels in black, roof retractor seat belts etc.

When I have time I will go pull them out and sell them. More than likely early next year. No time as we are working on a new project  and Thanksgiving,  Christmas and New Years is just around the corner

Looked in to our storage yesterday viewed two boxes that each have 69 428 carburetors and a few engine braces.....the saga continues
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propayne

Quote from: shelbymann1970 on October 27, 2023, 07:31:41 AM
I'm not sure what this was used on (Calif specials?) but it is a circa 68 also but the clear ENGLAND lens. I bought this one for the early housing.

I believe that is what is often referred to as the "Spot Lense" or "Long Range" version.

See the lower right hand corner of the vintage ad that I posted earlier.

- Phillip

President, Delmarva Cougar Club - Brand Manager, Cougar Club of America