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The real cost of EV

Started by 98SVT - was 06GT, October 26, 2023, 12:11:20 PM

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98SVT - was 06GT

Previous owner 6S843 - GT350H & 68 GT500 Convert #135.
Mine: GT1 Mustang Track Toy, 1998 SVT Cobra, Wife's: 2004 Tbird
Member since 1975 - priceless

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Brett:

Excellent study. Thanks much for posting.

I'm sending it to all my ICE and non-ICE friends (I do have a couple non-ICE'rs---in laws---but I'm converting them as quickly as possible.)
Current:
2006 FGT, Tungsten. Whipple, HRE 20s, Ohlin coil-overs. Top Speed Certified 210.7 mph.

Kirkham Cobra 427.  482-inch aluminum side-oiler. Tremec 5-spd.

Previous:
1968 GT500KR #2575 (1982-2022)
1970 Ranchero GT 429
1969 LTD Country Squire 429
1963 T-Bird Sport Roadster
1957 T-Bird E-model

deathsled

EVs are a scam when you break down the cold hard numbers. And those numbers don't care about feelings. Hydrogen will win in the end. Most plentiful substance around. Thanks for the informative article.
"Low she sits on five spoke wheels
Small block eight so live she feels
There she's parked beside the curb
Engine revving to disturb
She's the princess from his past
Red paint gold stripes damned she's fast"

mark p

Thanks for posting, that is quite the study and looks like tons of good info 👍

(unrelated, but sort of related)
I'm still not seeing "the math" anywhere to show how we can "fuel" (= charge) the batteries for this "all BEV" dream?
Here in NJ, they'll still be fighting over the off-shore wind when I'm dead and gone... all the while ignoring the costs  ??? ::)
"I don't know what the world may need, but a V8 engine's a good start for me" (from Teen Angst by the band "Cracker")

66 Tiger / 65 Thunderbird

mark p

Interestingly, I read an article at Industry Week.com today titled, "Ford Postpones $12B in EV Investments".
That particular article says that Ford model e lost $36,000 per vehicle... seemed to be for Q3 2023.

Maybe some reality is starting to show?
"I don't know what the world may need, but a V8 engine's a good start for me" (from Teen Angst by the band "Cracker")

66 Tiger / 65 Thunderbird

98SVT - was 06GT

Quote from: mark p on October 27, 2023, 02:04:07 PMMaybe some reality is starting to show?

The problem is reality never comes into consideration when .gov is involved.
Previous owner 6S843 - GT350H & 68 GT500 Convert #135.
Mine: GT1 Mustang Track Toy, 1998 SVT Cobra, Wife's: 2004 Tbird
Member since 1975 - priceless

mark p

Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on October 27, 2023, 03:41:00 PM
Quote from: mark p on October 27, 2023, 02:04:07 PMMaybe some reality is starting to show?

The problem is reality never comes into consideration when .gov is involved.

I keep "hoping" (likely fruitless  ::)) that if more sources point out the realities... at least a few (vs only us throwbacks) will start to take note and maybe the tide will turn  ???
"I don't know what the world may need, but a V8 engine's a good start for me" (from Teen Angst by the band "Cracker")

66 Tiger / 65 Thunderbird

Side-Oilers

Mark p:  But, you're not being paid-off under (or above) the table, like our friends in gov't.
Current:
2006 FGT, Tungsten. Whipple, HRE 20s, Ohlin coil-overs. Top Speed Certified 210.7 mph.

Kirkham Cobra 427.  482-inch aluminum side-oiler. Tremec 5-spd.

Previous:
1968 GT500KR #2575 (1982-2022)
1970 Ranchero GT 429
1969 LTD Country Squire 429
1963 T-Bird Sport Roadster
1957 T-Bird E-model