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'67 GT500 featured in Motor Trend road test against 427 Corvette

Started by owenkelley, October 30, 2018, 01:24:30 PM

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owenkelley

So what about the valve covers? Did other early GT500's come with the "Power by Ford" valve covers? I don't have my registry handy. Is this car still out there somewhere?

honker

Here are photos of the GT500s tested by Car & Driver, automatic & air con (photo from passenger side) & Road & Track (photo from the front). both had finned valve covers.

PS: they both might have had the same car, because the R&T test in the text says it was also an auto with air (Rich would know the answer and the #s)

Mike

Bob Gaines

Quote from: owenkelley on October 31, 2018, 03:27:03 PM
So what about the valve covers? Did other early GT500's come with the "Power by Ford" valve covers? I don't have my registry handy. Is this car still out there somewhere?
No it was not typical for early cars early or otherwise to have plain Power by Ford valve covers. The valve covers only raise questions at this point. 
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Bob Gaines

Quote from: honker on October 31, 2018, 05:15:27 PM
Here are photos of the GT500s tested by Car & Driver, automatic & air con (photo from passenger side) & Road & Track (photo from the front). both had finned valve covers.

PS: they both might have had the same car, because the R&T test in the text says it was also an auto with air (Rich would know the answer and the #s)

Mike
That is #100.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

67411F--0100-ENG.

Quote from: honker on October 31, 2018, 05:15:27 PM
Here are photos of the GT500s tested by Car & Driver, automatic & air con (photo from passenger side) & Road & Track (photo from the front). both had finned valve covers.

PS: they both might have had the same car, because the R&T test in the text says it was also an auto with air (Rich would know the answer and the #s)

Mike

Hello Mike,

The February '67 issues of Car and Driver and Road & Track, and the March '67 issue of Sports Car Graphic all used 67411F--0100-ENG. in their road test articles.

Thanks,
Eric

Side-Oilers

I don't have those mags handy.  How consistent were the performance times?
Current:
2006 FGT, Tungsten. Whipple, HRE 20s, Ohlin coil-overs. Top Speed Certified 210.7 mph.

Kirkham Cobra 427.  482-inch aluminum side-oiler. Tremec 5-spd.

Previous:
1968 GT500KR #2575 (1982-2022)
1970 Ranchero GT 429
1969 LTD Country Squire 429
1963 T-Bird Sport Roadster
1957 T-Bird E-model

67411F--0100-ENG.

Quote from: Side-Oilers on October 31, 2018, 08:37:08 PM
I don't have those mags handy.  How consistent were the performance times?

Hello,

1/4 mile times were as follows:

C&D = 15.0 secs at 95 mph (car number 0100)
R&T = 15.5 secs at 95 mph (car number 0100)
SCG = 14.3 secs at 92 mph (car number 0100)
MT = 14.52 secs at 101.35 mph (car number 0173)

Thanks,
Eric

Side-Oilers

15.5 to 14.3 is a huge range from one car.  Yes, different drivers on different days at possibly different tracks, etc.

But still...my grandma can put a '67 GT500 in the 14s any day, and she's dead.
Current:
2006 FGT, Tungsten. Whipple, HRE 20s, Ohlin coil-overs. Top Speed Certified 210.7 mph.

Kirkham Cobra 427.  482-inch aluminum side-oiler. Tremec 5-spd.

Previous:
1968 GT500KR #2575 (1982-2022)
1970 Ranchero GT 429
1969 LTD Country Squire 429
1963 T-Bird Sport Roadster
1957 T-Bird E-model

69mach351w

Quote from: Side-Oilers on October 31, 2018, 02:33:02 PM
https://www.motortrend.com/news/shelbyvette/

427 Vette ran 13.8/104 mph.  435 hp, 4-speed, 3.55 posi.

The Shelby was noted in the article as being 0.7 sec slower. But its spec chart isn't shown in this link. (It was included in the original magazine article, but I just don't have that handy to look at.)
Depends on driver  :o

557

Well in this case I believe the Vette was a stick and the Shelby was an auto so there's that(3.25 rear?) ::)

shlby66

Quote from: 557 on October 31, 2018, 09:58:51 PM
Well in this case I believe the Vette was a stick and the Shelby was an auto so there's that(3.25 rear?) ::)

            And probably, one of the reasons, the 'Vette cleaned it's clock. ::)

2112

Quote from: shlby66 on October 31, 2018, 10:05:33 PM
Quote from: 557 on October 31, 2018, 09:58:51 PM
Well in this case I believe the Vette was a stick and the Shelby was an auto so there's that(3.25 rear?) ::)

            And probably, one of the reasons, the 'Vette cleaned it's clock. ::)

Why have they always compared the Corvette to a Mustang? Apples and oranges.

Should have compared it to a Cobra.

67411F--0100-ENG.

Quote from: 557 on October 31, 2018, 09:58:51 PM
Well in this case I believe the Vette was a stick and the Shelby was an auto so there's that(3.25 rear?) ::)

Hello,

The GT500 used against the Corvette was car number 0173.  It was the Lime Gold car with a 4-speed, 3.50:1 rear end, no A/C, and radio delete. 

Thanks,
Eric

Side-Oilers

Thanks for the specs, Eric.
I guess the R&T guys couldn't drive a stick very well.
Current:
2006 FGT, Tungsten. Whipple, HRE 20s, Ohlin coil-overs. Top Speed Certified 210.7 mph.

Kirkham Cobra 427.  482-inch aluminum side-oiler. Tremec 5-spd.

Previous:
1968 GT500KR #2575 (1982-2022)
1970 Ranchero GT 429
1969 LTD Country Squire 429
1963 T-Bird Sport Roadster
1957 T-Bird E-model

sfm5s081

I want a new test!

67 427/435 L88 Vette vs 67 GT500 Super Snake

These times are impressive for today's cars. I couldn't imagine what it was like back in 1967! Once upon a time