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Shelby Side stripe Location

Started by mtdubvee, July 18, 2019, 10:05:13 PM

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mtdubvee

The paint shop is striping my car tomorrow and I'm looking for placement dimensions.
The stripes are still on the quarter which helps but the motor is out making the car ride a little uphill
Right now so I want to make sure they get them right.

Anyone have any measurements from the bottom of the door or anything for the front fender?

Thanks
SFM 5S123

SFM 5S269

1967 GT350 #41 Raven Black 4 Speed

Bob Gaines

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Quote from: mtdubvee on July 18, 2019, 10:05:13 PM
The paint shop is striping my car tomorrow and I'm looking for placement dimensions.
The stripes are still on the quarter which helps but the motor is out making the car ride a little uphill
Right now so I want to make sure they get them right.

Anyone have any measurements from the bottom of the door or anything for the front fender?

Thanks
If you are piecing in a stripe kit with a existing stripe still on the quarter you are making a big mistake IMO. The reflective properties of the tape of the new stripe may not match that of the existing plus it may have been done wrong in the past etc. You will not be able to tell the reflective match or not unless in the dark with a light shining on it. New stripe kits that are not pieced together have the reflecting properties indexed in the same direction. You should not short cut putting on a 69/70 Shelby stripe IMO. You are asking for problems. No measurements needed from the bottom of the door . The GT350/500 should be centered in the scoop of the front fender and extends in a straight line all of the way back to the rear quarter where the wide part of the stripe splits the rear marker light opening. Those two points determine the straight line. The factory opened up the hole for the marker light by slicing a X in the stripe and folding the pie shape stripe pieces back on the trunk side of the opening. About a 1/4 -1/2 inch or so of stripe material is folded in on the back side of the fender, both edges of the door and the door jam. From the factory the folded over stripe edges were wiped with yellow contact cement to keep the edges glued down . To recap ,the most common stripe mistakes are that they are not straight ,not centered in the front scoop , the stripe does not split the rear marker light , the marker light hole is cut clean instead of the pie shapes folded in on the trunk side and all of the edges of the stripes that are folded over on the fenders doors etc. should be sealed with a visible coating of yellow contact cement. Yes the cement can be seen as messy but if you want it done like the factory it needs to be visible to a small extent. If you don't like it do it your own way it just will not be like the factory way. It is of course the owners/resto shop's  choice. 
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

mtdubvee

SFM 5S123

SFM 5S269

1967 GT350 #41 Raven Black 4 Speed

TOBKOB

QuoteThe GT350/500 should be centered in the scoop of the front fender and extends in a straight line all of the way back to the rear quarter where the wide part of the stripe splits the rear marker light opening.
+1...
I can't understand why so many people the marker light with the center stripe, but it seems more people miss the mark than hit it.  :-[

TOB
1969 GT350 owned since 1970

terlingua11

Here's a good look at an original car for a visual. I was curious after Bob's explanation to visualize it-

https://www.legendarymotorcar.com/inventory/1969-ford-mustang-shelby-gt350-1439.aspx
SFM6S1904
88 Saleen 19R

69 GT350 Vert

Quote from: TOBKOB on July 19, 2019, 09:01:49 AM
QuoteThe GT350/500 should be centered in the scoop of the front fender and extends in a straight line all of the way back to the rear quarter where the wide part of the stripe splits the rear marker light opening.
+1...
I can't understand why so many people the marker light with the center stripe, but it seems more people miss the mark than hit it.  :-[

TOB

+1. It is hard to look at when I see a perfectly restored 69/70 shelby with the stripe nowhere close to the center of the rear marker light.  Such a shame. 

Bill

So then these original stripes were installed wrong?
Instead of being part of the problem, be part of a successful solution.
HOW TO IDENTIFY A FORUM TROLL
https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=16401.0

J_Speegle

Sharing just a few original pictures of some new or original (1) examples. Have plenty more ;)

Most have been posted at some time in the past on this site











Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and Judge

Bill

So it looks like some variations do exist, thanks Jeff.  8)
Instead of being part of the problem, be part of a successful solution.
HOW TO IDENTIFY A FORUM TROLL
https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=16401.0

Coralsnake

Well, they were done by people  ;)
The original Influencer, check out www.thecoralsnake.com

shelbydoug

Quote from: Bill on July 19, 2019, 08:43:59 PM
So it looks like some variations do exist, thanks Jeff.  8)

Not only that, I'll bet there are a bunch of original cars where the left side doesn't match the right side? Did they talk?
68 GT350 Lives Matter!

mtdubvee

I was only doing the doors and fenders because only the doors and fenders were painted and the rest of the car is original paint and stripes.

They did it today. It turned out really good. If and when the rest of the car is painted I'll stripe the rest.

For now it turned out great for what we were doing.
SFM 5S123

SFM 5S269

1967 GT350 #41 Raven Black 4 Speed

J_Speegle

Quote from: Bill on July 19, 2019, 08:43:59 PM
So it looks like some variations do exist, thanks Jeff.  8)

Like many details there is a range of what is typically seen and acceptable to most. It's when someones claim or findings that fall outside of that range that things become an issue and owners have to choose to reproduce (if they are certain the detail is original) what may be seen as a defect or fall into the range.


The vast amount of cars I have pictures of are very close as illustrated above.  Glad to always help with pictures when I can
Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and Judge

JD

Photo (and print) your originals for future reference
'67 Shelby Headlight Bucket Grommets https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=254.0
'67 Shelby Lower Grille Edge Protective Strip https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.0

Bill

Quote from: J_Speegle on July 19, 2019, 10:57:48 PM
Quote from: Bill on July 19, 2019, 08:43:59 PM
So it looks like some variations do exist, thanks Jeff.  8)

Like many details there is a range of what is typically seen and acceptable to most. It's when someones claim or findings that fall outside of that range that things become an issue and owners have to choose to reproduce (if they are certain the detail is original) what may be seen as a defect or fall into the range.


The vast amount of cars I have pictures of are very close as illustrated above.  Glad to always help with pictures when I can

Jeff (Bob, Ed, Tim),

  Do you have any "feelings" or observations on the small stripe extensions past the rear quarter as shown in my pictures above. I had never seen them before and actually left them off of 1584 when reinstalling the stripes. Do you have any pictures similar? Or was whomever was installing the stripes that day feeling creative? I ask as I may eventually strip the car back down and redo the bodywork and paint......

Thanks in advance,

Bill
Instead of being part of the problem, be part of a successful solution.
HOW TO IDENTIFY A FORUM TROLL
https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=16401.0